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[Ed. note: This article was submitted by IPT member Rev. George W. Brooks. Opposing opinions are welcome.]
Why the Christian Right Loves Sarah Palin
September 5, 2008
“A genuine reformer. A deeply committed Christian. If I went into the polling booth today, I would pull the lever for John McCain.” —James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, on Gov. Sarah Palin being named the Republican vice-presidential candidate
The Christian Right, despondent at the prospect of losing access to the White House when George W. Bush exits in January 2009, seems to have found itself a new savior in the form of Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential candidate.
But why is the Christian Right so excited about a woman whose name, a few weeks ago, most would have been hard pressed to recognize? Sure, she’s pro-life, pro-war and pro-gun (whatever all that means). Most of all, however, she is a fundamentalist Christian who most likely has been influenced by a strident, apocalyptic form of Pentecostalism. In fact, according to the Associated Press, Palin was baptized in a Pentecostal Assemblies of God church as a teen and attended that church until 2002. There’s no way a person could spend more than 20 years in a church and not be impacted by its theology. And that's where legitimate questions arise.
Those who subscribe to an apocalyptic vision basically long for the end of the world and all the violence and bloodshed that comes with it so that Jesus will come back. This could prove to be a dangerous tendency in someone with the power to make war.
This isn’t to suggest that voters should write Palin off simply because of her religious affiliation. It does mean that we need to know more about her views, and it's up to the media to ask the hard questions. That's their job, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for them to do it.
Although many leaders of the Christian Right embrace apocalyptic views, thats not why they're throwing their total support behind her. The fact is that Palin is the only hope the Christian Right has of maintaining a presence in the White House -something George W. Bush was all too eager to accommodate.
Their total support, however, shows the inherent manipulation and, thus, danger of politics. And James Dobson is a perfect case in point. Dobson, the Christian Right’s single most influential figure, had declared that he could not—and would not—support John McCain's nomination. However, with Palin as the Republican nominee, McCain is now assured of the support of the movement that once opposed his candidacy.
The electoral might of the Christian Right cannot be underestimated. Religion has often shown itself to be the best predictor of how people will vote. At stake are approximately 18 million evangelical adults. Moreover, 19% of registered Republicans identify themselves as evangelical Christians.
Determined to use politics to advance their agendas, the leaders of the Christian Right have no qualms about turning churches across the country into political headquarters. But what good has it done? After nearly eight years of the Bush presidency, not only is the country devastated both morally and economically, the leaders of the Christian Right are left groveling for a few last-minute scraps thrown from John McCain's table.
As Frank Schaeffer, one of the founders of the Christian Right who has now renounced it, writes, “In 2000, we elected a president who claimed he believed God created the earth and who, as president, put car manufacturers and oil companies interests ahead of caring for that creation. We elected a pro-life Republican Congress that did nothing to actually care for pregnant women and babies. And they took their sincere evangelical followers for granted, and played them for suckers.”
Like moths flickering about a hot flame, the leaders of the Christian Right are eager to get close to political power. But as anyone who has played the game knows, politics is corrupt and manipulative. And the Christian Right was manipulated by the Bush Administration.
One such person who should know this is David Kuo, who served as Special Assistant to President Bush from 2001-2003. In his book Tempting Faith, Kuo describes the way in which the Bush Administration manipulated Christians: "Rove's Public Liaison office had a religious outreach team in constant contact with evangelical and social conservative groups about every facet of the president’s policy and political agenda. As part of their outreach they held weekly or more often, as necessary—conference calls to update that community on events and announcements while simultaneously soliciting their feedback.”
Kuo continues, “This network of people covered virtually every area of evangelical Christianity. The calls began with an overview of what the president would be talking about in the coming week. If necessary, participants were asked to talk to their people about whatever issue was pending. Talking points were distributed and advice was solicited. That advice rarely went much further than the conference call. There wasn't any malice or negligence behind this. It was just that the true purpose of these calls was to keep prominent social conservatives and their groups or audiences happy. In most ways it wasn't a tough sell.”
In fact, Kuo says, it wasn't difficult to convince Christians that President Bush was on the right side of virtually any tactic. “It should have been a whole lot harder because Christians should have demanded a whole lot more. But all too often, when put before power, Christian leaders wilt.” In McCain's case, the Christian Right has already wilted.
Thus, to get to the heart of the problem. Genuine religion has never attempted to merge with politics. If it attempts to influence politics at all, it's by speaking truth to power and acting as a moral compass for society. In fact, the Christian Right does Christianity a disservice. It greatly misrepresents its founder, Jesus Christ, who rejected politics as the solution for what ails us. Read the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5) for a clear sense of his priorities. To Jesus, religion was all about helping the poor, showing mercy (even to your enemies) and being a peacemaker, not a warmaker. He did not bless the powerful.
Rather, Jesus said, “'Blessed are the meek'.”
Neither did Jesus seek political favors or power. He was apolitical and anti-politics. In fact, Jesus had a tendency to attack and undermine political power. He had no qualms about getting in politicians’ faces, so to speak. Even with his back ripped open and bleeding, Jesus stood before Pilate, the man who had the power of life and death over him, and spoke truth to power: “'You could have no power over me if it were not given you from above'.”
Jesus understood that the legitimate use of power does not include using it to impose one’s will upon others. From the Christian standpoint, the proper use of power is to seek justice for all.
The Christian Right leaders have sacrificed their principles to the false idol of politics. In the process, they have sold their souls for a bowl of political porridge. As C. S. Lewis once wrote, “'He who surrenders himself without reservation to the temporal claims of a nation, or a party, or a class is rendering to Caesar that which, of all things, most emphatically belongs to God: himself'.”
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 12:34:51 pm » |
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The fact is that Palin is the only hope the Christian Right has of maintaining a presence in the White House
You know, everyone assumes that Palin was chosen because she's female. I don't doubt that it's one reason, but clearly there are other reasons, and this article does a good job of explaining one of those other reasons.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 08:23:00 pm » |
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Bible stories and verses must be examined in context. The misconception of Jesus being only a peacemaker shows the lack of understanding of this author. God certainly showed His wrath on individuals, generations of families, and entire nations....not my definition of "peacemaking"!
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 09:09:02 pm » |
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I'm not sure I want to question REVERAND Brooks and suggest he doesn't understand the Bible... 
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 07:08:26 am » |
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 09:21:45 pm » |
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The Religious Right is SO wrong! It isn't very Christ-like, in my opinion (as a former Christian Fundamentalist). This article was very interesting and informative. Thank you Reverend.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 10:01:36 pm » |
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"There’s no way a person could spend more than 20 years in a church and not be impacted by its theology. And that's where legitimate questions arise"
This is EXACTLY my question concerning Obama, and his membership in Rev. Wrights church, how can anyone not be impacted by his "mentor" for so long, and then to dismiss him in the blink of an eye because the Rev. Wright was "caught on tape" spewing is racist views, his anti American views.....? Anyone want to comment on this ?? And pleaseeeee leave politics out of it, I want to know how his association with Rev Wright for the past 20 + years has no impact on him
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 10:32:19 pm » |
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I can't speak about the church, or a given Pastor, but I've been my father's daughter for 44 years, and his racist, bigoted views aren't mine. I disagree with them vehemently, but I still love my father, just not his way of thinking. I have been impacted greatly by his thinking, but to the extent that I have learned never to be so narrow-minded as to completely reject anyone based on color, sexual preference, or Political party affiliation, etc....
I don't believe (anyone with firsthand knowledge please correct me, if I'm wrong) that any other minister within Trinity (Obama's) church has been accused of sharing the same views as Rev. Wright. I have attended Catholic Churches for most of my life, and I can honestly say that there are many things I hear within the confines of those walls that I absolutely disagree with, but it's the only faith I know. I choose which messages to take to heart, and which not to.
The Reverand that wrote the editorial states:
"This isn’t to suggest that voters should write Palin off simply because of her religious affiliation. It does mean that we need to know more about her views, and it's up to the media to ask the hard questions. That's their job, but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for them to do it. "
In order to make a good choice, you need to look at many things before coming to a decision on which hole to punch.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2008, 12:33:58 am » |
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 that article consisely states exactly why church and state should be separate............you can't legislate morality, nor should you try...morality is something that should be taught at home or in sunday school or pray groups.........ethics should be exercised in the workplace and the government offices...if honesty was the policy in politics none of this back and forth between parties would be necessary.........voting for someone is a personal decision and I personally don't trust McCain or Palin..........there were so many more qualified choices for McCain than Palin........there were congressmen/women who would be much better suited for the job and even if I liked McCain I would be hard pressed to vote a 72yr old man into office knowing if he kicked the bucket..(not too unusual for 70 somethings to do) that a very young inexperienced politician would be at the helm.........griz
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GIVE ME THE STRENGTH TO CHANGE WHAT I CAN ACCEPT THE THINGS I CAN'T AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 08:37:04 pm » |
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Bible stories and verses must be examined in context. The misconception of Jesus being only a peacemaker shows the lack of understanding of this author. God certainly showed His wrath on individuals, generations of families, and entire nations....not my definition of "peacemaking"!
All Old testament stuff wifey. You are correct when you say 'God' showed His wrath. Not Jesus. King David was not allowed to build the Temple. Why? Because he was a warring King and this fact did not please God. In an alter at a synagog there are not any nails used. Why? Metal is a tool of war.Again this does not please God so even in the Old Testament God was trying to teach us His children a more excellent way.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 07:21:28 am » |
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 that article consisely states exactly why church and state should be separate............you can't legislate morality, nor should you try...morality is something that should be taught at home or in sunday school or pray groups.........ethics should be exercised in the workplace and the government offices...if honesty was the policy in politics none of this back and forth between parties would be necessary.........voting for someone is a personal decision and I personally don't trust McCain or Palin..........there were so many more qualified choices for McCain than Palin........there were congressmen/women who would be much better suited for the job and even if I liked McCain I would be hard pressed to vote a 72yr old man into office knowing if he kicked the bucket..(not too unusual for 70 somethings to do) that a very young inexperienced politician would be at the helm.........griz Wow, I thread about religion during the political season. I imagine that the posts will go on for quite some time on this one! You know, I have heard the "you can't legislate morality" montra for quite some time and don't agree at all. I do understand that you cannot make a law and expect people to inwardly accept it. That's a given. It might be obeyed, but it may not be internalized. But I've only seen the "you cannot legislate morality" phrase used by those who argue against any law that might have some relation to a religious prinicple. This is where I believe that the "you cannot legislate morality" crowd is just plain wrong. Take a couple of the ten commandments, for example- "thou shalt not steal" and "thou shalt not kill" [according to my friends who are Hebrew scholars, by the way, the word used here in the original text for "kill" is really "murder" - as in "thou shalt not murder"]. So, we have two very religious teachings (don't steal and don't murder). Most societies, including ours, also have laws against these very two things. Hmm, is this a subliminal attempt by those on the "far right" (what a silly expression by the way) to legislate Old Testament values on all of America? Of course, not. Are there any IPT-ers who believe that it is acceptable to steal or to murder? I hope not! But what about the religious roots of these two laws? Should we abolish these laws because of their religious roots? See what I mean? Griz. You even mentioned "honesty" in your post. I'm glad that you did since there is a commandment about telling the truth ("thou shalt not bear false witness"). I wonder if this is the foundation of our laws against perjury? Quick now, before those of you on the "far left" (to use an equally silly expression) acuse me of promoting the establishment of a theocracy in our land, I will state that I do not believe that every single law in America has a direct Scriptural verse for background support. On the other hand, many do, and the impact of having laws in our country that are, at least in part, based on "morality" cannot be denied. I suppose that the bottom line is whose view of morality will be used when laws are made. That, my friends, is what written constitutions and elections are all about. For me, I appreciate the fact that we have some laws in this country that ARE rooted in religious (and specifically Christian) tradition. whitecastleman
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 02:26:38 pm » |
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But I've only seen the "you cannot legislate morality" phrase used by those who argue against any law that might have some relation to a religious prinicple. This is where I believe that the "you cannot legislate morality" crowd is just plain wrong.
We need to legislate "morality" because even the so-called moral people won't behave without these laws. I've always found it interesting that Christians, Jews, and Muslims need laws of man to make them behave decently when they have the laws of their gods to follow. I'd think they'd be far more fearful of the punishment doled out by their gods than then punishment doled out by man, but apparently they aren't. I'm an atheist, btw. I can tell you that if I thought a god existed and was watching my every move and controlled my destiny, I would be on my absolute *best* behavior at all times, and I would follow every single one of that god's rules with utmost diligence !
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 09:45:30 pm » |
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OK what's up with the deregulating of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?? We saw just how evil persons will behave when there are no regulations.  Oh! AIG those boys needed something, to guide them on appropriate behavior. It is not appropriate to cry broke and then go on a spending spree after receiving a dole from the goverment. tsk tsk. Most of the time laws and regulations are to keep good men honest. oh well jmo. Why not legislate morality?
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 09:40:27 am » |
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Just whose idea of morality would you like to legislate babybaby? Name me a few...
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2008, 12:01:32 pm » |
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It doesn't have to be any particular group's morality. For most behaviors there's pretty much widespread agreement which ones are unacceptable in a civilized society ... murder, rape, robbery, child abuse, etc.
For the less obvious, many of them can be decided by excluding religion-only justifications, i.e., if the only reason to ban this behavior is religious, then don't ban it.
Just a start.
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2008, 12:12:03 pm » |
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You mean like abortion...or do you consider that murder too?
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2008, 01:01:42 pm » |
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I don't consider abortion to be murder, but apparently some people do. The fetus isn't an individual human being, but I'm not sure how the issue can be logically decided.
But that doesn't even seem to be the focus of the anti-abortion crowd. They tend to focus on their religious objection. I've noticed that more recently they've attempted to concoct scientific justifications, like that nonsensical abortion-breast cancer link. Abortions aren't entirely risk-free, but most women don't die or even seriously harmed by the complications.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2008, 04:30:38 pm » |
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We all know that anyone can claim to be a reverend without any formal training....non-denom churches have done it for years and will be the first to admit it....even ordained ministers and priests may misquote or misunderstand scripture.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2008, 04:38:31 pm » |
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I know Rev. Brooks, he's a member here...and his church is an ardent supporter of inmate issues in Illinois...he's supported every IPT initiative we've proposed for prison reform, appears at prison reform functions and has been a friend of inmates for a long time.
In the case of abortion, it's never mentioned in the Bible....the Bible says life begins at birth...when the first breath is drawn....
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2008, 09:40:09 pm » |
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Wifey, that's one of my biggest complaints ! It's not like doctors or attorneys or other professionals who have to go through a certain amount of schooling/training and then get a license to practice. A person can slap on a collar or a funky hat or whatever, claim to be an official spokesperson for god, and then "teach" whatever the heck they feel like putting into other peoples' heads. And collect money, too ! It's really insane.
Dazzler, that's my understanding. The Bible says nothing about abortion being wrong. And yet so many Christians believe that it does. I know that the Catholic church in particular has taught that abortion is wrong, now this gets back to wifey's comment. They just teach whatever they want, I guess nobody fact checks them.
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