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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2010, 10:43:20 PM »

For me this would be a wonderful alternative since I am unable to travel out that way very much. But if it would in any way take away from the opportunity for a face to face visit I would not be supportive of it. Being able to see K, hold hands, and just be by each other is not something I am willing to give up.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2010, 10:44:10 PM »

Oops, I was quoting something Dazzler said a few posts  up. Sorry, I guess I deleted a little too much!

More articles I just found regarding this issue:

http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=399298

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5013295-504083.html

http://www.herald-review.com/news/state-and-regional/article_520bcc53-6b50-5f9a-b98b-8725c0595f3a.html

I'm still looking for something on how effective/detrimental this is in areas it's already in.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2010, 10:46:05 PM »

Oops, I was quoting something Dazzler said a few posts  up. Sorry, I guess I deleted a little too much!

More articles I just found regarding this issue:

http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=399298

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5013295-504083.html

http://www.herald-review.com/news/state-and-regional/article_520bcc53-6b50-5f9a-b98b-8725c0595f3a.html

I'm still looking for something on how effective/detrimental this is in areas it's already in.

It was the post before the quote from Dazzler, we were posting at the same time, sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2010, 10:52:53 PM »

No problem.

It was just my interpretation of the info found at this link

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=096-0869&GA=96
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2010, 11:35:13 PM »

A few thoughts:

I'm hard pressed to believe they would stop face-to-face visits altogether, as many do not not have access to the technology required to interface this way.

Yes, they might say "computer problems," etc., but what is the difference between that and the phone issues we face that on a regular basis?

Of course we would all prefer to hug and kiss our loved ones, that's a given. I'm not convinced they are proposing a choice between the two. As far as the inmate and family are concerned, he/she may have access to those he was unable to access before, e.g., elderly/distant family members, children in groups, ill family members, folks that can't afford to travel, etc.

As far as jobs go, my concern is that it would be a much higher cost to implement a program such as this, due to the IT burden and expertise required, even if it were all outsourced.

I'd definitely pay or support $20 for a 55 min. call. We already pay approximately $10 for a 30 minute call. Seems like a better deal to me.

As far as video and recording our visits, we're already subject to that. Surely we have no illusions of privacy on our visits, calls or mail at this point.

In my opinion, it's about time prisons stepped up to promote family interaction in this way. The technology has been around for awhile now. I would consider this an exceptional gain in prison rights/activism. That said, I'm not very optimistic about implementation, as it would seem to be cost prohibitive.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM »

plainjane, very well said. You hit on some points that might not have been considered/looked at.

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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2010, 09:42:51 AM »

I have mixed feelings about either way the decision may go.
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2010, 10:41:17 AM »

I think it would be good, but don't even think about taking away face-to-face visits.  I need to hug and squeeze my husband. 
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2010, 10:46:28 AM »

Like nearly everyone else, I'm on the fence about this. IF it is an alternative to person-to-person visits, it might be a good idea. With money being so tight and living far away, this would be a great way for me to see and talk to M on a regular basis. But I wouldn't want to give up the privilege to sit on one of those uncomfortable stools for anything!

On the other hand, I can see IDOC using this technology to replace regular visits, especially with the inmates in maximum security. I can hear them spouting some crap about keeping the public safe.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2010, 09:40:37 PM »

Hmmmm....so I could log onto my own webcam in my own home so can I follow my own house rules for dress code and what I consider appropriate....just a thought, and only kidding.   wc2
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2010, 04:00:30 AM »

Hmmmm....so I could log onto my own webcam in my own home so can I follow my own house rules for dress code and what I consider appropriate....just a thought, and only kidding.   wc2

 wc35 I was thinking the same thing...If I wanted to chat with my LO topless or just plain nude, I could right??? LMAO!!! If it was like that I wouldn't mind the video chat visits wc35
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2010, 07:11:08 AM »

LOL I don't think nude video chat would be allowed.   wc35  If they use this as an alternative and not a replacement for visits it could help those families who have no means to visit their loved ones while incarcerated.  I see many people in wheelchairs trying their best to visit and I know it must be a pain in the rump going to the prison in a wheelchair or walker.  Hell its pain for those in good health.

I think womens prison would really like this due to the fact they could see their children more often.  Not saying men don't want to see their children but we all know IDOC caters more to women and their children than men and their children.
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2010, 09:51:11 AM »

Doesn't one of the women's prison already have a program like this?  I thought I remembered seeing something on TV about it.  

I am going to try and see if I can fine it.

And the web visits are still at a designated location where the family has to go and be monitored and timed while video-visiting.  
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2010, 10:01:38 AM »

Illinois Virtual Visitation for Incarcerated Fathers

http://www.dadsrights.com/resourcecenter/article/IllinoisVirtualVisitationforIncarceratedFathers.html

By Jeffery M. Leving | Apr 1, 2009

Chicago, IL – A non-violent felony conviction has landed Juan behind bars for the next three years. As Juan is trying to adjust to prison life, his young son is trying to adjust to life without a father. Juan, like countless numbers of inmates in Illinois, is locked up in a correctional facility far from where his elderly mother, wife and son live. The high cost of transportation and related expenses make regular visitation unaffordable for the impoverished family.

Every time someone breaks the law, there are victims. While the system tries to bring justice to those victimized, new victims are created. The plight of the incarcerated fathers may not evoke sympathy in many people. However, I must point out that the grief and suffering of their children are exacerbated by a correctional system that is ill-equipped to address the pain of losing their fathers.

Research has shown that children whose parents have been incarcerated “experience anger, anxiety, inability to concentrate, depression, preoccupation with their loss, sadness, grief, shame and fear following the incarceration.” However, children who often visit their incarcerated parents and do so under favorable conditions “exhibit fewer adjustment problems.” As for the prisoners, those who maintain strong family ties behave better during incarceration, re-enter society with better success, and have a lower rate of recidivism.

Many correctional facilities in Illinois are remotely located from the Chicago population. The sheer distance discourages many families from visiting their relatives in prison. The high costs of transportation, food and lodging, not to mention the substantial amount of time involved, are additional inhibiting factors. Most importantly, however, the prison can be an inimical environment for children so that a visit there may be traumatic. As a result, many families opt for telephone contact. Unfortunately, telephone contact is totally unsatisfactory. Not only is it expensive for the families because all calls from prison must be collect calls, but also frustrating to the children because they do not see their parents.

Virtual Visitation for Incarcerated Fathers
For years, I have been warning of the damage done to children who grow up without contact with their fathers. Due to the large population of incarcerated fathers in Illinois, many children are growing up fatherless. Extensive research has shown that children whose fathers are involved in their lives perform better in school, complete more years of schooling, have fewer behavioral problems, have better cognitive and psychological development, experience less poverty, are less likely to drink and use drugs, and have better self-control.

As the chairman of the Illinois Council on Responsible Fatherhood and as a fathers’ rights advocate, I have been pushing for the creation of a virtual visitation program for incarcerated fathers in Illinois. This program will enable children to interact with their incarcerated fathers via real-time video and audio conferencing, eliminating the problems associated with traveling to and visiting the prison. Instead, visits can be scheduled in a child-friendly environment - with toys and appropriate furnishings and decorations.

I have co-authored an amendment to the Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act to provide for reasonable visitation between a child and a non-custodial parent through electronic communication including video conferencing. This bill (SB1590) is awaiting a decision at the Illinois State Senate, and would give legal support to the virtual visitation program for incarcerated fathers that I advocate.

Virtual visitation with inmates is not a new concept. The pioneer seems to have been the State of Pennsylvania, where a program began in 2001. The Pennsylvania Family Virtual Visitation, created by The Prison Society in partnership with the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections, provides high-tech video conferencing equipment that allows families to visit in "real time" with their loved ones who are incarcerated. For a small fee of $20, families can schedule a 55-minute visit once a month. According to The Prison Society, inmates, family members, and prison staff have expressed their support for and appreciation of this program. Correctional officers have reported that many inmates are better adjusted and seem happier after virtual visits. Virtual visitors express how important and meaningful the program is to the health and welfare of their families.

In Florida, there is a program called Reading and Family Ties, which allows incarcerated mothers to read stories to their children using live video via the Internet. The program has been credited with enhancing family unity, easing inmates’ transition back to society and improving literacy for both parents and children.

In Illinois, we, too, have had success with a pilot program for incarcerated mothers, but none for fathers. Through this incarcerated mother program, which was created through the partnership between the Illinois Department of Corrections and the Women’s Treatment Center, staff are available to the families prior to, during and after each visit to address their needs, and to ensure that the visit is child-focused.

A subsidiary benefit of virtual visitation for incarcerated fathers is the rehabilitation of the father, but the most cogent reason for implementing this program is the welfare of the child. It is past the time for Illinois to enact a law and establish a program that help the tens of thousands of children have a relationship with their incarcerated fathers.


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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2010, 10:04:34 AM »

This was the part I was trying to point out in the article below but for some reason I couldn't highlight it.
It says that their already was a pilot program here in IL. for mothers.

In Illinois, we, too, have had success with a pilot program for incarcerated mothers, but none for fathers. Through this incarcerated mother program, which was created through the partnership between the Illinois Department of Corrections and the Women’s Treatment Center, staff are available to the families prior to, during and after each visit to address their needs, and to ensure that the visit is child-focused.

A subsidiary benefit of virtual visitation for incarcerated fathers is the rehabilitation of the father, but the most cogent reason for implementing this program is the welfare of the child.
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2010, 08:36:21 PM »

Here in Kankakee county we use video visits at the jail. You heard how the guards are so quick to spout off and say we (the loved ones) won't be able to bring contraban. Well, our little old county jail got all clean of drugs -- after they busted the punk c/O' who were bringing the drugs in.  wc35  Video visits do not stop contraban.

The c/O's should come out against this because where would there be a sweeter job to work when you have all the big seniority?? Oh yeah incompetent Warden. that is another revolving door job for chumps at the end of their tenure.
And how the heck is a dishonest c/o gonna make a dishonest buck at work?  wc13
My lo tells me the main use for cash in prison is to buy drugs. I am just crazy enough to surmise the c/o's need money, an inmate doesn't. They don't take write outs at Jewel or Kroger! This would all be so hilarious and bite the chumps in the butt.

The touch of my loved ones hand is priceless.
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2010, 08:48:01 PM »

babybabybaby,

Is that exclusive? I've heard of jails that have set ups at the actual location, and they use video for all visits. It's horrid. All no contact. It seems to me that they are proposing an alternative, e.g., webcasts for people from far away. Hence, the goal is they will not have to relocate people to be closer to their families.
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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2010, 09:02:09 PM »

I can understand if they allow both, but don't take away my visits to see him.
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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2010, 09:45:13 PM »

Same here....boop!  Video would be nice if a person could not be there for some reason, but other wise I want the  visits....Humbird
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2010, 06:56:17 AM »

Virtual conjugal visits....inmates having cyber sex..... wc35

I am waiting to see who the first person is to get banned from video visitation...LOL!


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