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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2011, 10:51:05 AM »

Take your pick people...choose whichever answer you like the best.... wc35
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2011, 10:53:12 AM »

My head hurts! No amount of coffee is going to help.
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2011, 10:59:47 AM »

After re-reading the original question it appears no one answered that.....I'm assuming she means 'registered' as in Sex Offender database?  I don't believe they are required because your LO will receive his parole papers at his release and those will spell out his conditions of parole.  He can take that to the local sheriff's office. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2011, 11:37:46 AM »

I said that that's the way it happened at those facilities. You got confirmation as to how Stateville does it. I got confirmation from an inmate who went through it at 4 other facilities. If they aren't doing it anymore, why is the SS paperwork still given to them at orientation? Why bother giving it to them at all if the temp ID card is the new norm across the board? My point being, ask the counselor. If my husband is wrong then he, and hundreds of others, was told wrong by numerous IDOC employees and wasted their time filling out paperwork they aren't even submitting anymore. 

I had the information straight from hubby and thought it would help the person who originally posed the question. If the information is wrong, delete it. Rottie, if my husband is wrong on any level, since your hubby is going through this, maybe your hubby should ask his counselor about the temp ID vs. SS card to find out ahead of time whether or not they tell him what Dazz's lo was told about not giving the inmate the SS card from the master file after he went through the same paperwork process. If hubby is wrong and Dazz's answer is the only correct answer, then IDOC counselors are wasting a lot of their own time and inmates time with unnecessary paperwork.

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2011, 11:41:12 AM »

I've asked now several times....has anyone's LO actually been handed an SS card?  I have no idea what confirmations you have and don't really care....just tell me if someone actually got the card?  And I'm the one that was told by IDOC why the SS card wasn't provided...and that was at Hill...reconfirmed by Stateville's warden...

And you're asking why the IDOC does wasteful things?  LOL  I thought you just came out of the system?
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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2011, 12:17:21 PM »

I'm not asking why IDOC does wasteful things. It's obvious they do. I just don't get why they would bother with paperwork that they aren't even going to submit if all they plan on doing in the end is ask the inmate if he needs a temp ID upon release. I suppose I'm thinking logically that if the temp ID is across the board, why not eliminate the SS paperwork at orientation if they aren't going to follow through with it? But then I also realize there's nothing logical about IDOC and what they do or don't do.

All I can confirm is what he told me: several inmates who were close to release in his dorm were giving their notification at some point during their incarceration that their SS card had been received and was placed in their master file. Whether they were given that physical card upon release, he doesn't know because he was not there.

Those four facilities are at least going through the motions with the SS card paperwork with inmates. Whether or not they actually follow through and give the card to the inmate upon release is anyone's guess at this point since you were told different in your situation.

So it being the case that your information could be the most current and most correct then everyone's lo's who are getting out soon should ask their counselor about the temp ID card procedure instead of the SS card procedure.

We'll be able to find out from rottie's husband when he's released. If he's going through the paperwork right now, it'll be interesting to see if they hand him his new SS card when he's released.

I'll ask the same question as you because now I'm more curious: "has anyone's LO actually been handed an SS card?" If they have, please share.
 
Besides, I'm not trying to debate whether either answer is right or wrong. All I can go by is what process my husband went through. If he was told wrong, then the facilities he went through aren't following the temp ID procedure or else they are changing it upon actual release like you were told.

In any event, I hope those with lo's going through the process to get their documents are successful with whatever path they take to get to the end result. 
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2011, 12:46:22 PM »

My inmate received a note confirming his SS card was received and placed in his file...he was told he couldn't have it at discharge....so better luck to everyone else...

I really wish you'd shorten up your posts....they hurt my head.... wc15
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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2011, 02:50:04 PM »

Okay now I"m even more confused with everything.

He's not going to be out on parole he's doing his parole inside right now.

But yes that's what I was asking for.

And .. so since I got lost.. they have an id they can use in order to get the stuff so he just waits until he gets out and we figure it out then. right?
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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2011, 04:15:55 PM »

Tell him to ask his counselor about the need for temp ID upon release so he can get those documents himself when he's free and clear of IDOC.

Short enough?  wc2
I give! wc1 
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