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« on: March 16, 2007, 03:20:34 AM »

This might sound like a crazy question but how do inmates get their assigned numbers? Do the letters behind the numbers (like B, C, N etc) have any significance?
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2007, 06:23:54 AM »

GOOD QUESTION! I want to know that as well. Also, what does C-grade mean? And what are the other "grades". Since Jo went to seg, he said he'll be moved to C-grade when he goes back into general population which will also decrease phone priviledges or something. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2007, 06:31:02 AM »

Jims posted this:

     Re: Definition?
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Here it is. This was written, however, before 2000, and so some of the numbers assigned in the 1990s continued into the next decade. But here is what IDOC says:

A.D. 01.07.220 Central Numbering System
   
The Alpha portion of the IDOC number relates to the decade and the sentence type.

A =Indeterminate admitted 1970s –opted for determinate
C =Indeterminate admitted in the 1970s
L =Indeterminate admitted in the 1980s
H, T, U =Indeterminate admitted in the 1990s
N=Determinate admitted in the 1980s
P=Periodic Imprisonment
X=Parole Supervision from another state
B, K, R =Determinate admitted in the 1990s


I think the "B" numbers were admitted in the 1970s and 1980s and given determinate numbers from the get-go. And of course, they use the same number on all subsequent incarcerations.


   
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2007, 06:32:53 AM »

Here's the breakdown on the numbering scheme:

A.D. 01.07.220 Central Numbering System
The Alpha portion of the IDOC number relates to the decade and the sentence type.

A =Indeterminate admitted 1970s –opted for determinate
C =Indeterminate admitted in the 1970s
L =Indeterminate admitted in the 1980s
H, T, U =Indeterminate admitted in the 1990s
N=Determinate admitted in the 1980s
P=Periodic Imprisonment
X=Parole Supervision from another state
B, K, R =Determinate admitted in the 1990s
S = Determinate admitted in the 2000s
M = Determine admitted starting 2008

C-grade is the lowest grade an inmate can be in...there's A, B and C.  Typically when an inmate is sent to seg, they'll be reduced to C-grade.  They may get a punishment of "90 days across the board", which means, they'll be in C-grade for 90 days, then B-grade for 90 days, then back to A-grade.  Each grade gives them various privileges, phone, commissary, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 07:16:08 AM »

Thanks!  I've always wanted to know that.  You guys are Sooooooooo smart!
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2007, 10:10:40 AM »

That is ofcourse different to what JJL is asking. She is talking about grading. The grading is done on behaviour levels. The best level is A, but once in seg that drops right down, depending on what the ticket was for. Once out of seg it is upgraded for a while to the next level or 2, but does not return to A or B for a little while, depending on their behaviour once again.
 It can affect different things they are allowed to do, like, I believe they have to be on an A grade for 3 years before they are eligible for marriage, that is if marriage is allowed in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 10:15:17 AM »

I have a friend that I write to occassionaly and he is a "K".  He's in Menard now just transferred from The ville.  Anyone know what that is?
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2007, 10:19:01 AM »

dcal  ...                            B, K, R =Determinate admitted in the 1990s
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2007, 10:20:32 AM »

The K is in his doc # ? If so, they came about in the late 90's I seem to remember.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2007, 10:26:45 AM »

 &*&  Thank you.  I've never seen a K before  ^%$#
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2007, 10:29:22 AM »

Quite a few around!
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2007, 11:16:04 AM »

That is ofcourse different to what JJL is asking. She is talking about grading. The grading is done on behaviour levels. The best level is A, but once in seg that drops right down, depending on what the ticket was for. Once out of seg it is upgraded for a while to the next level or 2, but does not return to A or B for a little while, depending on their behaviour once again.
 It can affect different things they are allowed to do, like, I believe they have to be on an A grade for 3 years before they are eligible for marriage, that is if marriage is allowed in the first place.
Yes, I had mentioned this in my reply.  I want to point out that the return to B and A has nothing to do with behaviour during the time and everything to do with the punishment set by the ARB.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2007, 11:20:56 AM »

Thank you everyone for your information!
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2007, 11:22:06 AM »

I"ve never seen these before    H, T, U =Indeterminate admitted in the 1990s or P's.  Must be rare. 
I think one of the main things about  C grade is that they are still limited to  $30/month to spend in commissary and just necessities.   

Scout do you mean that the return to higher grades has nothing to do with behavior during seg time and was set by the original punishment? 
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2007, 11:28:35 AM »

Is that "for sure" in all of Ill. that "C" #'s can only spend $30 a month???  I know M. has spent more than that and he is a C.  Maybe it is different if you need a big item ticket IE TV, fan etc. ???
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2007, 11:28:44 AM »

When someone goes to seg...they may get 1, 3, 6 months, whatever...that is typically "across the board", meaning if they get 1 month in seg, they get 1 month C grade (while in seg), one month B grade, then A grade...same if the punishment is 3 months or 6 months. 

I had a document with the offenses and punishments...I'll have to see if I can find it.  What I was pointing out was that if a person gets three months in seg, that when they get out of seg, their move up in grade is not dependent on how they behave.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2007, 11:31:02 AM »

Is that "for sure" in all of Ill. that "C" #'s can only spend $30 a month???  I know M. has spent more than that and he is a C.  Maybe it is different if you need a big item ticket IE TV, fan etc. ???
Sorry, I think we're confusing you because there's two different topics going on.

C# (as in M is a C#) is the letter before their inmate number (as indicated above).

The other part of the conversation is grade.  Inmates, based on behavior, can be in one of three Grades, A, B or C...with A being the better grade (more privileges) and C being the worst.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2007, 11:35:57 AM »

Here's a link to the portion of the administrative code that defines offenses and punishments. 

http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/020/02000504ZZ9998aR.html
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2007, 11:37:50 AM »

 ^%$#  Ok, I get it now.  Boy! I'm getting slow in my old age!!!
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2007, 11:42:40 AM »

This explains how they work their way out of each grade:

Section 504.130  Demotion and Restoration in Grade

 

a)         Privileges shall be afforded to adult offenders assigned to correctional centers based upon their current grade, in the following manner:

 

1)         Offenders in "A" grade shall be eligible to receive all institutional privileges.  Newly admitted offenders shall be placed in "A" grade.

 

2)         Offenders in "B" grade shall be eligible to receive all institutional privileges except for a day release program or a furlough other than a medical or funeral furlough.

 

3)         Offenders in "C" grade shall be eligible to receive no privileges except yard, commissary, and visits.  An offender may purchase personal hygiene items and other items approved by the Chief Administrative Officer based on the committed person's institutional status from the commissary once each 30 day period while in "C" grade.  The 30 day period shall commence on the date of placement into "C" grade.

 

b)         An offender who has been demoted to "B" or "C" grade as a result of a disciplinary infraction shall be automatically promoted to the next highest grade at the expiration of the time period specified by the Adjustment Committee.

 

c)         An offender who has been demoted to "C" grade and automatically placed in "B" grade after expiration of the time period specified by the Adjustment Committee shall be required to spend the same time period in "B" grade as in "C" grade.  Upon expiration of this time period, the offender shall be restored to "A" grade.

 

d)         An offender may petition the Adjustment Committee for restoration in grade based upon the individual's good conduct and institutional record no more often than every 90 days.  A copy of the Committee's decision shall be provided to the offender.

 

(Source:  Amended at 27 Ill. Reg. 6214, effective May 01, 2003)
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