BIG MUDDY Correctional Center

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   Big Muddy River Correctional Center


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Big Muddy River Correctional Center
Angela Winsor, Day-to-Day Operations
Facility Data

Big Muddy River Correctional Center
Opened: March 1993
*Operational Capacity: 1,938
Medium Security Adult Male
*Current Population: 1,922
Average Age: 38
Average Annual Cost Per Inmate: $16,081

*As of 11/30/2011. Reflects bed space capacity analysis as outlined in the January 1, 2012 Quarterly Report to the Legislature.
Visiting Hours
 

IDOC Visitation Rules and Information—please review before visiting

Visitors to any correctional facility will be required to produce photo identification and verification of date of birth. Please be sure to bring 2 forms of identification with you; these would include a current photo ID such as a driver’s license, a state ID card, government ID card, military ID/driver’s license, or acceptable documentation of non-U.S. citizenship including a current Passport, or Visa, documentation must contain the visitor’s date of birth. Expired forms of identification will not be accepted. Visitors will also be required to provide vehicle information and other pertinent data, such as government identification, official credentials, attorney registration, and or law student certification.

General Population Offenders

8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. seven (7) days a week. All visitors must arrive by 4:00 p.m. as no visits will be allowed after that time due to the notification time and time delay in the visit processing.

Segregation Offenders

10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. seven (7) days a week. Offenders are only allowed to visit for one (1) hour. All visitors must arrive no later then 12:00 p.m.
Facility Address

Business Mail:
251 N. Illinois Highway 37
Ina, IL 62846

Inmate Mail:
Inmate Name & IDOC#
251 N. Illinois Highway 37
Ina, IL 62846

Phone: (618) 437-5300
Fax: (618) 437-5627

Facility Information

The Big Muddy River Correctional Center's most important goal is to ensure that the employees have a safe and secure environment in which to work, while at the same time, ensuring that offenders housed at the facility are afforded the opportunity to live in a safe and humane environment that is conducive to programming opportunities. The various programming opportunities are designed to assist inmates in bettering themselves so that they may become prepared for life in the community upon release.

The Big Muddy River Correctional Center is a medium security adult male facility, located one mile south of Ina in Jefferson County. The facility consists of a total of 20 buildings, which comprise more than 39,000 square feet. The living units consist of four X-type housing units, one receiving and orientation unit, one segregation unit and a 15-bed health care unit. The facility sits on a 78-acre site, with 38 acres enclosed by fencing.

Inmate Programs

Academic

    ABE (Adult Basic Education)
    GED (General Education Development)
    Special Education Programs

Vocational:

    Automotive
    Construction Occupations
    Horticulture
    Culinary Arts
    Youthful Offenders Educational Program for offenders 21 and under

 
Other:

    Career Technology
    Life Style Redirection
    Reentry Summit
    Substance Abuse
    Sex Offender Program
    SDP (Sexually Dangerous Persons) Treatment Program
    Anger Management
    Transition Program
    Leisure Time Activity
    Chaplaincy
    Library

http://www2.illinois.gov/idoc/facilities/Pages/bigmuddyriver.aspx

[Lissa]

I am hearing that someone recently visiting Big Muddy was told they couldnt wear capri's. The guy's girlfriend was wearing a t-shirt that happened to shw her tummy when she raised her arms and jeans and his mom was wearing a long sleeved blouse that had  smal v-neck and they werent allowed in. What is up with that?

[Surfborg]

Lissa,

There could be a number of reasons that Capri's were not allowed. Perhaps they were white and her undies were not.  If her t-shirt was short enough to show her tummy for any reason that would be a no-no.  Cleaveage is also a no-no.  It also depends on who is on duty at the time.  One person made us change my son's diaper, another one didn't.
 

I am hearing that someone recently visiting Big Muddy was told they couldn't wear capri's. The guy's girlfriend was wearing a t-shirt that happened to shw her tummy when she raised her arms and jeans and his mom was wearing a long sleeved blouse that had  smal v-neck and they werent allowed in. What is up with that?

[HazelEyedMom]

I was just at Big Muddy and I wore capri's and I even asked if they wehre Ok and the guard told me yes.    But I also seen ladies with no sleeves and one with her belly hanging out.  I guess it all depends on who he Co's are I am told.   It was my first visit and I had no problems at all.

[Kitten1956]

Hi Everyone!!!

Does anyone know how often an inmate can shower and shave at Big Muddy??  Or what the schedule is for shower-taking??

Thanks for any answers!!!

[DublTrubl]

The shower facilities are open during each of the day room times (as long as lock down is not in effect).  Inmates can utilize the facilities as they wish. Of course, sometimes they might have to wait in line, but they are available daily.

[DublTrubl]

Hi All. Just a heads up, the Mud has put a couple new rules in effect. The first took effect immediately, and that is assigned seating. Each table now has one seat that has an "I" on it, that's where the inmate must sit. That one isn't really a big deal, the second one which takes effect NOVEMBER 1 is the one that could cause some IPT members some inconvenience if they aren't aware of it ahead of time. The visiting hours will change (again this starts NOV.1)  to 8:00a.m. to 6:00p.m. 7 days a week. No admittance after 4:00p.m. due to processing time, etc.

I was told by one C.O. that if this time change was an inconvenience, for anyone concerned to write letters to the warden director and any politician that they knew. Supposedly the reasoning behind the time change is to cut down on overtime, but according to C.O. is actually going to make additional O.T.

For all of those that have long travel times, you might need to rethink your next visit. Hopefully you all get this information ahead of time so that your visits aren't ruined by change of rules.

[His Lovely Angel]

i was just wondering does anyone know what time the guys at the MUDD are allowed out of there cells during the day. My guy told me that he was going to call today but i still havent got no call. he said they are only allowed out for three hours a day and its broke up 1 hours here 1 hour there . i was wondering does any of lovley ladies here KNOW WHAT THOSE HOURS ARE

[FW]

They probably let them out during chow time 3 times a day.  That's generally around 4:30 am, 10:00am, and 4:00pm.... or within 30 minutes to an hour after that.

[His Lovely Angel]

Ive gotten calls between 8and 9 am and between 12 and 2 pm

[FW]

That might be during shower time, and/or time where inmates get called to go and see the IDOC counselor.  They do space out the times when they're out, but truly the time is quite short if they're not in a program.

[His Lovely Angel]

yea what he said exactly is they get three hours out a day but is 1 hour here and there and he never know when its going to be really    .. 21 hours in they cell ......WTF is this baby TAMM

[FW]

Yes... that's why people try to get into taking classes or into a program, or working somewhere in the prison.  Being locked up 21 hours a day is really pretty tough.  Has he thought about doing one of those things to help pass his time while he's in there?

[DublTrubl]

They are on a set schedule for the "out" times. It depends on if they are on the top deck or bottom deck of the "house" which schedule they are on. I'm not sure which deck is which, but one of the schedules is: M,W,F,Su night they are out from 7:30 - 8:30, then twice during the day, once around 1:00 and once earlier in the morning (Sorry don't know the exact morning time). T,Th,Sa nights they get out twice, 6:30-7:30 and 8:30-9:30, during the day it's around noon. Of course all the times fluctuate a little - by 10 minutes or so - depending on what else is going on. These times don't include chow times, but they have very little time to do anything besides eat at that time. If they have call passes to health care or counselors, etc. they are not allowed to do anything else but whatever the call pass is for -- can't sneak a shower or phone call, etc. Of course, these times don't include any time out that they have for classes if they are enrolled in those. I had heard that those inmates in 4 house have more free time than the other 3 units, but I don't know this to be factual. Hope this helps!!

[His Lovely Angel]

on mondays they get out between 8- 9 am and between  1-2 pm i know because ive revieved calls at those times

[FW]

Yes, it appears that people in 4 house do seem to have more time free than others.  Some of the CO's don't like it too well and sometimes give the inmates on the wing a hard time....at least on the substance abuse wing.  Many of them think all inmates should be locked up 21 hours a day without variation. 

[jlnjy]

Does anyone know what the visiting room is like from recent experience? Do the tables have chairs with backs or is it just a seat that you have to straddle?

[lshuizen]

Most of the tables are like picnic tables, some square and some round with no backs but I think there are a few
little square ones up front by the vending machines that the chairs do have backs. They tell you where to sit so you never know what kind of table you will have to sit at.

lsh

[jlnjy]

Thanks for the information. I wondered about the backs to the chairs because its hard on his elderly parents to sit on the stools. It's really not that comfortable to me (i had back surgery a few years ago) so when he was at Graham for a little while his mom was happy because of the backs on the chairs.

[iqyou]

They are just the regular tables with the seats attached (so no backs on them).  They do have the plastic chairs with backs on them for people who need them for physical reasons, you just have to let the CO know.  I don't visit there anymore but most of the CO's were very decent during visits (and I visited there for 4 years).

[jlnjy]

Thank you iqyou for the information that they may offer (upon request) a plastic chair with a back to it for someone physically impaired.

[robertamarie]

       JLNJY,
             

The stools are connected to the tables, the one with the I on it is the inmates, they are not real comfortable but

Hey as long as you get to see your loved one, you learn to make do, have a great visit and enjoy time they are fairly decent there, don't bother you as long as you abide.
             
           
                                                                                                   ROBERTAMARIE
                                                                                                                         

[jlnjy]

Thanks RobertaMarie

That's how the tables are where he is now....one of the CO's where he is now actually offered me a chair because she seen me having a hard time sitting and when I went to the bathroom I had mentioned the back surgery I had combined with the full bladder made for an uncomforable time -- she offered me HER chair. I tried to not take it but both my guy and his Dad said - take it, take it.

Haven't seen that CO in a while ...she was probably written up for being human.

[PsFriend]

Anyone have a commisary list for Big Muddy?

[His Lovely Angel]

no I dont have the list but I can tell you the prices of a few of the items on it if that helps any

[PsFriend]

well, hes not there yet, hoping soon though (August or Septemeber) but he heard it is more expensive than Lawrence. So was just wanting to know so he could get some stuff before he gets there.
How much is awalkman? the shoes? the noodles? and do they have hot plates? if so how much are they?
thanks...the rest of the stuff, who cares!! LOL he can be dirty! JK But those are the big items he needs and the hot plate he cant get where he is.

[His Lovely Angel]

Does anyone know how far the mail is behind at big muddy . It was 16 days behind about a week ago and I was wondering if it improved

[jlnjy]

My guy is averaging about 10 calendar days in getting his mail from the date I mail it...this has been recently but prior to that definitely 14 days or more.

[foreverurs07]

The mail is absolutely horrible my babes was sad because he thought I stopped writing him cuz the mail is so slow. He just got letters yesterday that I mailed about two weeks ago. I don't understand it.

[jlnjy]

I guess there is so much give and take between institutions. At the last facility my guy was at he got my letters within a few days, he was working regularly, and it was an ok institution -- just a very long drive for us so we couldn't visit as often. So he transferred to Muddy to be closer to us (still a drive but half the time) but with the gas prices I don't see him any more often than I did at the other facility, he started working but then the supervisor for the job had to be off work for some time so that means he can't work, and he gets his mail late. So, I increased my writing so he can have more letters....but now I have to wonder...does he get them all at once or not?

foreverurs07...did you send several letters in one day or were they sent at different times and he received them all in one day?

[foreverurs07]

I sent him two envelopes full of letters that were mailed all in one day and he received them at different times. He got each envelope two weeks a part.

[codyandbecca]

my husband just got transferred there yesterday. does anyone know how long it is taking them to approve visiting lists? does anyone have a commisary list or at least some of the prices of items there? are they allowed to have hardback books? how long can you visit at one time? is there a building that is different that the main door we go into? i have lots of questions sorry but i am new to this and i need answers. thanks becca

[jlnjy]

codyandbecca

When my guy got transferred there his list transferred with him. If this is your husband's first transfer then it may take longer - up to 30 days (I doubt it will take that long) - you should be able to check in with his counselor to see if the list is approved. I'd double check with the front gate also. [always get names of who you talk to]

A member here "redvoodoo" posted a commissary list for Big Muddy as of 11/28. I don't think it was a complete list...but I could be wrong. I have it printed out...my daughter used it for a class to show the cost of prisoners for her speech / presentation of life in prison. Look under Illinois Prison Phone System, Mailing Regulations, Inmate Trust Accounts, Transportation and Lodging Services, Vine Notification -- subcategory Commissary - lists, other topics

I do believe they can have hardback books, seems like I asked but all the books I've left have been paperback - so double check with the gate about that.

The way visiting works is you check in and wait at one place - this is also the place you will get your debit card to use on the vending machines in the visiting room, after they pat you down you walk yourself (sometimes you're escorted) to the next building (its a short walkway) - you will bring your locker key, vending machine debit card (if you purchased one) and your photo id with you. Once in the next building you will see ahead of you a gate - its another short distance walk to it. The officer behind the glass between the gate corridor will open the gate for you. You will walk down to the end of the corridor and to your left the officer will be behind the glass looking for you to show your id and your hand stamp (they don't always stamp females - it changes) then the officer will open that gate for you. You will walk a few feet until the hallway ends and turn left to walk into the visiting room. Once in the visiting room, approach the desk officer and explain you are here for the "last name" visit. The officer will either ask where you want to sit or tell you which table to sit at.

I'll try to find that direct link for you for the commissary list....but I have to run some errands right now....


~~~Updated~~~ http://www.illinoisprisontalk.org/index.php/topic,14237.0.html

[codyandbecca]

well i just called and spoke with the chaplin there.he told me that i could have engraving on the inside of his wedding band. he told me it would be nice could it could be identified alot easier than if it was not. i also spoke to them and asked about hardback books and they told me that it was ok for them to have hardback books which is good. they told me he is in like a receiving area until they get a bed for him. since he is a so i am going to tell him to request to be in the program so he can be in this like dorm area where they stay. that is what his counselor told me. i am sure i will come up with a thousand more questions but at least he has been moved and i can go and see him soon!!!


god now i am depressed again.. i just checked his profile on idoc and they took the good time away that they gave him now we are back to square one. so check out the new ticker lol

[kate102518]

Well I thought the problem was fixed with the mail at big Muddy, but I guess not.  I got a letter yesterday from my l/o that he wrote a week ago (I usually get letters within three days), and in the letter he said that that day he had received 8 letters from me, most dated over the last two weeks, and one that was a month old.  So for anyone else waiting on a letter from Big Muddy, all I can say is be patient...
                                                                                                                          

[jlnjy]

Kate...I visited my guy on Friday and he asked me when I wanted him to call - Saturday or Sunday and he didn't call either day - now I'm worried. I don't know if he wrote a letter or not. I'm planning to surprise him with a visit this week to let him know I'm concerned about him.

If I get a letter before that, I'll check the postmark.

At least our guys are finally receiving our letters. As much as we want mail - imagine that many days there, that is the one thing they look forward to.

[kate102518]

I am surprised no one else has complained on here about the mail at Big Muddy.  Is it only my mail that's taking so long to get to him? lol  Seriously, Paul still hasn't gotten letters that I sent a month ago.  It's not that he's missing some of my letters, he hasn't gotten ANYTHING from me in a month.  What could be going on? I write him every other day.  He called me today, but hung up before I could accept the call (He does that sometimes, just to make sure I'm okay, but doesn't want me to have to pay for the call.  I would have gladly accepted though...)  I feel so bad for him, and just don't know what could possible be taking so long.  Like I said before, I don't know what house he is in (I asked that in a letter about a week ago, but of course he hasn't seen it yet) Do you think it is because the letters are in spanish?  We have always written each other in spanish, but I've never seen the mail take this long.  That was the only thing I could think of (maybe they don't have anyone to translate? Although, spanish is a very common language, and 2 of the envelopes that I sent just had pictures in them, so he should have at least gotten those, and he hasn't)  Has anyone else experienced this before??   

[downtownchicago]

kate, if I were you I would call the prison and either talk to a counselor or be connected to the warden's or assistant warden's office and find out if there is some extraordinary mail slowdown.  I remember I called Dixon one time because the mail was so slow, it wasn't 30 days slow though !

Are you getting his mail ?

[Dazzler]

Hmm, it does seem to me that correspondence in a foreign language is not allowed.  I can't imagine that Spanish would be prohibited but you might want to call and ask the mailroom.  There must be some reason he's not getting your mail...or it's sitting on a translator's desk waiting to be scanned...

[jlnjy]

Kate there have been some issues at some institutions because of the language but if that was the problem, I would think they would have mailed it back to you with a notice or something - I could be wrong - definitely a reason to call Big Muddy

There have been issues with the mail - I guess its become commonplace plus there may be more information in the thread Individual Prison Chat Boards

Regarding pictures - whatever was in that envelope with them or if they were the only thing in the envelope - he would get it all at once or none at all.

Definitely do follow up with a call to BMCC and let us know what you find out. Best wishes to you.

[kate102518]

We have always corresponded with one another in spanish.  He understands english, but he can't write it very well.  I have tried recently to send him letters in English, since he can read it (although not as easily), but it doesn't seem to have made a difference; he hasn't gotten those either.  I am getting letters from him, but it's taking almost a week for them to get to me (before it would normally take 2-3 days).

 Even though I don't know what house he is in, do you suggest I give his name when I call the mailroom, or just ask, in general, if there has been a problem with the mail recently?  

 

[downtownchicago]

It's probably fine to mention his name but I would just make a generic inquiry first.  If they ask for it, I wouldn't hesitate to provide it.  It's possible that there is a reason for the incoming mail slowdown.  Outgoing mail from Dixon has always been faster for me, I usually get my husband's letters in 2-3 days, he usually gets mine in a week.  They probably have to spend more time scrutinizing the incoming mail.  But honestly, 30 days is just way too long !  Hopefully they can provide an explanation.

[kate102518]

Well it's too late for me to call right now. The "mailroom people" go home at 4:00.  If I don't get a letter from Paul tomorrow saying that he's gotten my letters, I will be calling back tomorrow.  Thanks for the advice guys.  I'll let you know what happens!
 

[codyandbecca]

My husband said yesterday that the mail is running about a week behind right now coming in. So I hope your man starts getting his mail.

[kate102518]

 
Well Paul finally got my letters!  He got all of my letters at once, with dates ranging from Jul 20- Aug 17 (I think 4 days is a record as far as him getting my letters!)
I have no idea what took so long, but hopefully things are better now! 

[downtownchicago]

Oh kate, that is GREAT news !!!  I know you must feel very relieved now.  I also hope that the problem is fixed and you don't have any more big delays.  A week or even two can happen, but an entire month is really not proper.

[kate102518]

Yeah, I'm so glad
Paul was especially happy because along with all the letters, I had sent him some "special" picutures.
lol

[codyandbecca]

Kate I just have one question. I have been thinking about taking some "special" pictures of me but I did not know if I was allowed to send anything nude of me or not if they do not show any penetration. They are allowed penthouse magazines I really do not know what the difference would be. Have you ever sent anything in like that or do you know if BMRCC would allow such a thing?

[kate102518]

Becca,
I'm not really sure how strict they are.  In the pics I have on "babydoll" lingerie.  It is skimpy, but there's no nipple showing lol.  I think that that is one of the requirements... 
I didn't want to do anything too crazy   

[jlnjy]

My guy got a letter from me on Friday that I had mailed in the same week on Monday - seems like an improvement - for how long though, who knows.

As for the pictures you know sometimes things can be present in the picture that someone would just think was part of the picture but its really a reflection if you know what I mean.

[Marks_guy]

Hi all,
Just a quick question I'm hoping someone can answer. I just found out my L/O has been approved for a transfer from P'ville to Big Muddy. How do the 2 compare? I know he hated it at P'ville and had some real issues recently, but is excited about the different programs BMR has to offer. How long does it usually take for the physical move once the transfer has been approved? The reason I ask is that I was planning a trip to visit him in November, but now we're in a holding pattern until he is moved.

Any thoughts/opinions/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks bunches.

[preshustwo]

Would anyone have info on marriages at Big Muddy I would so appreciate it  Thanx

[codyandbecca]

My husband is at big muddy and honestly I am not sure if they allow them or not but I do not think they do. You need to call the prison and speak to the chaplin. He will be able to give you any information that you may need.

[preshustwo]

Thank You I will call appreciate you letting me know

[smedina]

HI EVERYONE!

Well i just got a phone call from VINE telling me that my baby's father was being transferred to BIG MUDDY so like how do i put money in his comminsary? and whats the address there so i can map quest it to see him... does anybody know how long after they get there can they get visits? like right away during the visiting hours? or what? and so far this is it i know i have to wait for him to call me to set up consolidated... thnx for the help!

[Marks_guy]

Here is the address to write your loved one:
BMRCC
251 N. Hwy 37
Ina IL 62846

You may send money 2 different ways: Using Western Union, or in a money order no larger than $50.
He will have to submit your name and phone number to be approved. Sometimes this is approved quickly, sometimes it takes a couple of weeks. He will have to write or call to let you know if you are approved to visit because the prison is not going to inform you.

[DaNewMrsPeoples]

Here is the address to write your loved one:
BMRCC
251 N. Hwy 37
Ina IL 62846

You may send money 2 different ways: Using Western Union, or in a money order no larger than $50.
He will have to submit your name and phone number to be approved. Sometimes this is approved quickly, sometimes it takes a couple of weeks. He will have to write or call to let you know if you are approved to visit because the prison is not going to inform you.

I hope my baby is getting my mail, cause I starting sending mail the same day I got my Vine notification. The address I used was 251 N. Illinois Hwy 37 P.O. box 900, It had his money orders in it ( he really need those cause they told him it would take 3 weeks before he get the money he had while in recieving at Menard). Then I got a letter with just the P.O. box #. After sending 10 letters with that on it I got a letter  from him saying the address changed. So I hope he got my other 25 letters. I hope the mail room dont think Im crazy for all those letters in just one weeks time.

[Marks_guy]

The mail will get there. The p.o. box is the general delivery address for inmates. You can still use it. The mail there usually take about 10 or so days to go through the mail room and be delivered. Pretty soon, you will get a letter from him that will have a separate set of numbers. It will be a number-letter-number combo. That is his location within BMR. Use that as part of the address to help the mailroom sort things faster. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!

[DaNewMrsPeoples]

  Wow 10 days....Im less than an hour from the prison and the post office say mail takes 2 days to get there and  now 10 days before he can actually get the mail. If he puts me through this crap again. Im gone have to put my foot up his butt . I guess im gone have to accept calls twice a week instead of once (when ever they approve everything cause he just got there on the 3rd). The number-letter-number combo was on the letter he told me about the address change, his inmate number and r70 but I didnt put the r 70 on the money orders just the inmate number. Will he still get that? Also do I write. the r 70 on the pics too?

[codyandbecca]

Ok maybe I am a little off key here but I am very confused. What does r 70 mean?? You are supposed to put the inmates number  and their last name on the money order. The mail at big muddy is running about 2 weeks behind. It is very frustrating but we have no choice but to deal with it.l

[DaNewMrsPeoples]

I don't know what the R 70 mean. I had already sent everything off as soon as I got the email from Vine.  I put his full name and inmate number on the money orders. Then when I received his letter he said I had to put everything that he wrote on his letter  on mines to him or they would send it back and it had his inmate number then R 70.. I haven't had the chance to ask him  what it mean cause he hasn't been approved for calls or visits yet.  Im still confused on why its gone take 3 weeks to get his money from Menard. How do they expect for them to get write outs and personal hygiene items?

[allgone]

My BF told me to not use the PO Box anymore.  Just the street address.  I'm not sure why but he said the address changed.

[Marks_guy]

I'm gonna guess that he told you to address the mail like this:

His Name
His IDOC Number
BMRCC R-70
251 N. Hwy 37
Ina, IL  62846

If that is the case, I can explain what the R-70 is. Big Muddy is getting a lot of transfers lately. So many that there are not always enough beds in the regular cells, so they have a temporary receiving section. So R-70 is probably his bed number in that section.

[codyandbecca]

Thanks Marks Guy for clearing that up. My husband was in receiving there as well and that is probably his cell number. (70). I always use the po box is that why my mail is not getting to him for like 2 weeks? Is anyone else having this issue??

[DaNewMrsPeoples]

Oh  I see, I was truly wondering about the extra numbers. I dont know if my guy has received his mail yet cause he has yet to respond. Is there away to find out if he has received the money on his books?

[Marks_guy]

Sorry, Becca, the mail really is that slow. It's irritating because there are times it is important for mail to arrive in a more timely manner. M was frantic because he hadn't received a letter from me after our visit. It took about 2 weeks for it to get there, and all that time he was worried that I didn't want anything to do with him.

You could try calling BMR about the money issue, but I'm not sure who exactly you would talk to.

[lvanrs2]

My husband says his mail take anywhere from 2 to 3 weeks before he gets it.  Just the other day he got a letter and 3 cards at the same time although I did not send them at the same time.  The letter was sent a week before the cards.  Sometimes I think they just hold the mail until they get several letters and then pass it out.  Heaven forbid our tax dollars pay for them to do their job in a  timely manner.  They wouldn't get away with that crap at the post office.

[wildcat7]

Happy Sunday, Big Muddy Family!

This post has nothing to do with anything in particular, I just wanted to wish everyone a happy day! I am taking a break from finals. I have to write a paper on the Belize Barrier Reef and what we need to do to get it off of the endangered list. Very interesting.
Anyway, I pray that everyone is well and I am glad to see that our brothers are off lockdown! Praise God. Take care.

[lvanrs2]

I do not know what is really going on with Big Muddy but my husband has been hearing things through the grapevine concerning commissary and they are not for the better.

1.  Starting soon commissary will be cut down to 1 time a month.
2.  Mashed potatoes willk be cut from the commissary because some guys in 3 house got caught making vodka with it. (not sure how that is done but okay)
3.  Starting in October inmates will no longer be able to purchase socks, boxers or T-shirts in the packages (like the Fruit Of The Loom or Haines packages).  They will only be able to purchase those items that are made by industires.
4.  There has always been a limit on the amount of things you could buy but IDOC has lowered that amount again.  He doesn't know the limit on everything but was informed when he went to commissary he could only buy 2 bars of soap.

I will try to get more information when he calls again.

[Marks_guy]

In M's last letter, he told me that the commissary workers had all been fired because they were opening packages, taking stuff out of them, then resealing them before selling them to the inmates. Mostly food products. He also said the days for commissary were being reduced. And they were selling long toothbrushes, but now the co's are confiscating them because they weren't supposed to be sold.

[Marks_guy]

As far as making vodka, it is a pretty simple process using potato, water, and a rigged hot pot.

[lvanrs2]

I would have never thought of making vodka with instant mashed potatoes but I don't have that much time on my hands.  I can make hooch but I swear these guys just come up with all kinds of craziness LOL

[Marks_guy]

They do say that idle hands are the devil's playthings. LOL

[TimeStandsStill]

My l/o arrived at BMR on 9/16.  I started mailing letters on 9/17 and he has received none.

I received my first phone call from him last night (landline).  He's still in their reception.  The phone call went through and we talked for the full 30 minutes.  I never set up an account with Consolidated.  I have AT&T so should I assume that I am being directed billed or should I still call them?

He also said his visiting list was approved and I could visit now.  Do I need to wait 30 days?  He indicated that I didn't and others were getting visits already.  He said visiting was for 4 hours.  If I go during the week when it is less crowded is there a chance it could be longer?  Do I call and ask for an extended visit since I'll be driving 5 hours?  I was planning on spending the night out there so can I visit 2 days in a row?  Is there a limit of 5 days per month and only 2 days can be weekend visits?  What other non-photo ID is acceptable in addition to drivers license?

Sorry for all the questions but this is our first time dealing with the IDOC and after the first call and preparing for the first visit I have so many questions. Instead of spending the morning making phone calls I thought I'd ask here. So many firsts.....

[lvanrs2]

I don't know if visitation in reception is limited to 4 hours but general population can visit all day.  If it starts to get crowed then they start to limit the amount of time.  I would contact the warden and ask for extended visiting time just in case.  As far as your phone bill, you are being billed direct through AT&T.  They are one of the phone companies that has automatic billing from consolidated.

[Marks_guy]

Mail at BMR usually takes a week & 1/2 to 2 weeks to be delivered. I cheat and send M's letters in a large manila envelope along with a magazine or puzzle book. It usually costs me around $2.50, but cuts the delivery time in half. Use this address when mailing things:
His Name and #
BMRCC
251 N Hwy 37
Ina, IL  62846

If his visitor's list has been approved, you are free to visit. Visits are normally for 4 hours, but if you go during the week, you can stay most of the day as long as it isn't busy. You can try for an extended visit, but they might deny you if it is your first time. That's what they told me, and I was coming from New Mexico. Yes, you can visit for multiple days in a row as long as he has the visits available (meaning no one else has been to see him). I used my state id and birth certificate. Voter registration card also works. I took a bunch of identifications along just to be safe. LOL

Vending cards are $1, and you can put up to $40 on them. Use multiple bills to do this instead of twenties. The card come with one dollar on it, so you can only put $39 more on it.

Let me look around because jljny posted a VERY accurate description of visiting BMR. When I went, I used it as my guide.


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[TimeStandsStill]

Thank you both for the info and for responding so quickly...I really appreciate it.  It's great that us "newbies" have resources from others with first-hand experiences.

I mailed 3 large "yellowish" envelopes the end of last week so hopefully he'll get those quicker.  Probably before he even receives the letters.

I did mention the tattoo's section reading NONE RECORDED to him and he said when he talks to his counselor, once he gets into GP, he'll bring it up.

[TimeStandsStill]

I just had my first visit this week.  It went better than I thought it would considering I've never done this before.  It was a 5 hour drive to Mount Vernon where I stayed at a Motel 6 for under $40.  The drive from Mt. Vernon to BMR is 20 minutes.   Not sure exactly what I was expecting him to look like but he looked wonderful! Actually, kinda sexy in the prison blues and the new goatee! It was awesome. He's awesome. Everything went smoothly.  I did want to update what I found out regarding visiting.

There is no 4 hour limit.  Visitors can stay as long as they want to as long as it isn't crowded.

Also regarding the 5 visits a month and 2 only being on the weekend does not apply to BMR.  Yes, there are only 5 visits allowed per month but they can be ANY days.  The gatehouse said there are other facilities that have that rule but not at BMR.  The only restriction that was posted (looked like it came out of their rulebook) is that they are only allowed 1 visit on a Saturday and 1 visit on a Sunday.  That is where the confusion with the 2 weekend days probably happens.  During the week, they can have multiple visits but the 1st visit has to be terminated before the 2nd one takes place. 

I hope I explained that so it makes sense.

He also got his first trip to commissary yesterday so that alleviated some of his stress.

Again, I want to thank everyone for their help and support.  Things really do get a little better after the initial reception and all the waiting for some kind of communication!

[lvanrs2]

BMR must have changed the visiting rules.  They did used to have the rule in place where 5 visits were allowed but only 2 could be on the weekend.  Glad they changed that policy though, makes things alot easier on my schedule.  I was only going twice a month because I am only off on the weekends.  Not sure I will change that but it's good to know I am not as restricted with my time.

[TimeStandsStill]

How long does it (usually) take to talk with their counselor once they get into General Population?

[Marks_guy]

It's usually just a couple of days. If too much time goes by, he can ask to see his counselor.

[TimeStandsStill]

It's going on 2 weeks.  I'll relay the info. to him the next time he calls.

He just got the issue with the tattoo's taken care of with IA and it's now up-to-date.  Thanks for the info. regarding that, too.

[Marks_guy]

It's good to know that has been taken care of. I'm sorry if I had you worried about it, but I always believe it is better to be safe than sorry.

There may be a delay in seeing the counselor because of inmate movement. M told me they have been shuffling people around quite a bit as of late.

Here's a question. M was just moved into a "theraputic community." He's taking a substance abuse program at the moment, in case that helps. I'm waiting for a reply letter from him, but can anyone give me a heads up as to what that means or entails?

[lvanrs2]

If I am not mistaken I believe that is over in 4 house.  They hold all different types of classes over there and are separated from the rest of the population.  I also believe inmates who are in regular college classes are in 4 house as well.  I know that isn't much information but it's all I can recall from talking to my husband about the different houses.

[Marks_guy]

Thanks lvanrs. I appreciate you trying to clear that up. I knew that 4 house was for those in classes and programs since M was there while in horticulture class. Now he's been moved to a different wing of 4 house to be part of this "theraputic community." I was a little concerned because I thought I had read that is what they call the section of BMR for sexually dangerous persons.

[TimeStandsStill]

It's good to know that has been taken care of. I'm sorry if I had you worried about it, but I always believe it is better to be safe than sorry.

There may be a delay in seeing the counselor because of inmate movement. M told me they have been shuffling people around quite a bit as of late.

Here's a question. M was just moved into a "theraputic community." He's taking a substance abuse program at the moment, in case that helps. I'm waiting for a reply letter from him, but can anyone give me a heads up as to what that means or entails?

I agree, better safe than sorry.  Being a "newbie" to all of this, I had no idea that it could become an issue down the road.  Again, thanks for the heads up so I could tell him and avoid something that could have been a potential problem.

I don't know much about the housing.  He did mention that the inmates that go to school are housed in one place as Ivanrs2 said but that's all I know.   He said he was expecting to be moved but no clue as to when.

I believe he is on a waiting list for the substance abuse program and I think he's on a waiting list to talk to his counselor, too.  He's on every list imaginable! They ran out of request slips to be filled out, so he made his own.  He was told he can't do that and he would have to make a request for request forms! It's almost laughable if it weren't so pathetic. 

[jdmlt]

When we visited Big Muddy last we were told, to get a plastic chair we would need a doctors note stating why one was needed. Our letters from Northern IL are taking 8 to 10 days.  The Officers in the visiting room are so far very nice and helpful.  There is a restroom in the visiting room for visitors to use but not the inmates, and if inmate has to use restroom it isn't guarenteed (sorry spelling) that he would be allowed back into visiting room, depends on guards.  You can get playing cards and Uno cards while visiting...I'm checking on how I can donate Skip0 cards since my family loves that game and is easy to learn.  Hard cover books are allowed to the inmates.  I try and bring the books while visiting, they have a drop off box for books, magazines and peridoticals.  The first time I visited, I did not have a bra on and was not allowed in.  I was wearing a dark color T shirt and I wear a almost A bra and still was told NO adult can enter without a bra and underwear on, no matter what.  Vending machines are not bad, been there several times and one machine is always down but not to high of pricing..1.25 pop, 2.00 sandwiches . Visiting hours are only until 5:30pm.  I don't know how things run on the holidays since Thanksgiving will be my first time visiting on a holiday, but during the week day we have been able to stay any length and got in quickly, weekend we had a while before we got in and stayed until we wanted to leave around 4 hrs. Just an update since I just became a member.

[TimeStandsStill]

Hi and welcome to IPT!  I also have a LO at BMR. 

Perhaps you didn't see it but there is a separate restroom for the inmates in the visiting room.  It says something like Inmates Only on the door.  All he has to do is ask to use it since it is locked. When you are in the visiting room it is to the left of the door where you come in.

[jdmlt]

thank you, my son was trying to watch his liquid intake because that is what he was told and of course since he has not been there very long he doesn't know which guards are decent.

[jdmlt]

Can anyone tell me how long it takes for a doctor to see an inmate? The last two or three times I've seen my son I notice he is having the same side effects I had with my medical condition of a hyperthyroid...I'm concerned that the prison system won't even give him the easy blood test to either confirm it or not...I already was told that the system won't give him his ADHD medications, but the doctor told him that if my son wants he will prescribe Wellebrin, which my son has never been on.  I told my son to request this test but I feel like I'm just setting my son up for disappointment and worry...

[Marks_guy]

It can take a few weeks to see the doctor. Once he puts in the request, he'll just have to wait until he is called.

[jdmlt]

thank you for your answer, Mark's guy...appreciate it

[jdmlt]

Can anyone tell me if there is a limit on amount of books, etc...I can bring with me to the visit to drop off for my son...I read somewhere that some prisons has limits and was just wondering...

[TimeStandsStill]

The limit is 5. Books, newspapers, magazines, etc.   There is a drop box in the waiting area and the forms to fill out for them are usually on top of the box.  If you visit on the weekend don't be surprised if the box is full. Just be prepared to possibly take everything back with you.

[wildcat7]

Is anyone going to make a visit this weekend? I am leaving after our son's basketball game tonight so I can be there early in the morning. Hopefully, there will not be too many people there so I can stay all day and all day Sunday. Thursday was our anniversary, so it is a special visit for us!

[jdmlt]

My family usually goes on a Thurs. & Fri. Thank you for the info on the limits..and you are correct the one time we went on a Sat. the box was full.  Can I leave a calendar in the drop off box? We will be going up the 23 & 24 and hoping to drop off his Christmas gifts that day which is the calendar and books.

[TimeStandsStill]

I couldn't say for sure but personally I wouldn't put a calendar in the drop box since it is meant for periodicals and books.  I had pictures printed on paper that I wanted to put in there the first time I visited and they told me no. I suppose you could call and ask just to be on the safe side but I would mail a calendar.

[jdmlt]

thank you, I now remember reading on the drop box what is able to be left...I will mail the calendar...

[jdmlt]

Big Muddy IDOC page says is on Lock Down this afternoon....talked to my son last night. Hopefully it won't be a long one.

[TimeStandsStill]

Thanks for the info. jdmlt.  I hope it's not a long one either.  I've never been through an "official" lockdown before, only the "mini's".  I got a "thinking of you" call last night.  Let us know if you happen to hear of any details and I'll do the same.

[boricua1029]

Hey yall, I am not new to IPT but I am new to having a LO at Big Muddy. My LO got transferred to Big Muddy last Thursday from Menard. Although I am happy that he left that max prison it's so hard for him to adjust to this new one because of how much "freedom" he has now. I talked to him on Sunday and he seem kind of down. He said he is happy to have his transferred (even though he wanted Dixon), he's not use to it. When he was at Menard they where always on lockdown.

How is Big Muddy in general? Do they go on lockdown a lot? Any kind of info would help. Thanks so much!

 

[jdmlt]

My son has been at BMR since Sept. 2010.....I would say they have like mini LDs, nothing too long if I remember right the longest was 3 days. I think since he has been there I would say maybe been on LD 3 or 4 times. I know once was for the power outage from a storm.

[TimeStandsStill]

I only remember them being on mini lockdowns, too.  Weather related and New Year's Eve....when all the facilities were locked down as well.  Also, 1/2 a day when they were changing the glass in the towers, and a power outage. 

Big Muddy in general is not so bad as far as prisons go.  Give your LO a little time and I'm sure he will adjust.

[jdmlt]

TSS, ur memory is alot better than mine but u r right on all counts of the reasons...I only know of one fight there between 2 inmates and no LD was called for it.

[Marks_guy]

You all are very correct. I can only remember a few very short lockdowns.

[jdmlt]

I was just re-reading the posts here and yes the 4 house is for the civil cases of the SDP and inmates in classes also. I was told that there is 4 wings to the bldg. And it is two levels high. SDP has one wings, non SDP but sexual crime has a wing and non sexual crime inmates going to school has a wing. There is a mixed category wing. I guess they figure if you are going to school and don't want to mess it up then you won't mess with the SDP/sexual crime inmates. My son is in the 4 house and he says there isn't really much problems in the bldg. but, I don't know if he says what I want to hear....

[Marks_guy]

When M was in 4 bldg for classes, they didn't seem to have any problems there. I think everyone is too busy.

[jdmlt]

Marks_guy...I take it that ur LO isn't in 4 bldg anymore that his classes are done. What did he get to take his classes in?

Can't believe there is another LD, that's what we get for talking how little they are on LD.

[boricua1029]

I know, I was wondering why my lo didn't call me yesterday. I've missed his calls since Saturday 
Been working too much and ususally when he was at Menard he had set times when he called from the yard so it's hard getting use to him being able to call when he wants now pretty much.

[TimeStandsStill]

I know, I was wondering why my lo didn't call me yesterday. I've missed his calls since Saturday  
Been working too much and ususally when he was at Menard he had set times when he called from the yard so it's hard getting use to him being able to call when he wants now pretty much.

Just so you are aware, they can not call anytime they want to at BMR either.  He can call when they get their dayrooms which is twice a day.   Depending if he is on the top deck or bottom deck and if it is an odd day or even day, you will be able to determine the 2 to 2 1/2 hour time frame your LO can call in.

[boricua1029]

Yea I know, I figured that much that's why I said, "pretty much" I didn't mean all the time. When he was at Menard he only called on Monday mornings and Thursday afternoon (his yard days). They never had day room time...and then once a month when the phones went around to the galleries

But thanks for the info, any info helps me out!

[TimeStandsStill]

I understand.  At least at BMR the opportunity to call everyday is possible if the lines aren't too long and they can get a phone.  Most seem to be considerate if there are a lot of people waiting...
It sucks that your guy has been there for only a short time and they've been on lockdown twice within days of each other.  That has not been the norm since my guy has been there.  Does your LO seem to be getting better adjusted now?  

[boricua1029]

Hes doing much better, although he said they already switched him to like 4 cells. They haven't really settled him in yet. Thanks for asking!

[TimeStandsStill]

My LO mentioned that there seems to be a lot of moving inmates around since the last lockdown was lifted.  Glad your LO is doing better!

[klisa1313]

Hello. Well my husband is at Big Muddy. Is this an okay place to be? How long are the visits? Thanks for the info. Right now I am hoping his counselor will activate his phone list so I can get a call!! Does anyone know if jpay works with this facility? I have never used it before but was going to try it. Again I appreciate any information!!!
Klisa

[TimeStandsStill]

Yes, as far as prisons go, Big Muddy is an okay place to be.  They seem a bit more lax in comparison to some of the others. You can visit (general population) from 8:00am until 5:30pm, 7 days a week.  You will be able to stay the entire time unless it gets too busy then they will start terminating visits....first in, first out.  And yes, jpay works.  If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.  

[klisa1313]

Thank you so very much!! That helps me a bunch :)

[TimeStandsStill]

 

[mhager7221]

My LO also just got transferred to BMR and i live like 300 miles away. i was just wondering what the rules for visiting are? I know i read that they are allowed to sit on the same side as the visitors and you can hold hands and they don't necessarily have a set time for how long visits last is this all still correct? how many visitors are allowed to visit at one time? and is there restrictions on what day of the week we go? He was in stateville for reception and there he was only allowed 1 weekend visit a month... is this also the case at BMR? gosh i hope not...  Thanks everyone for the input!

[jdmlt]

Visits can be terminated, if they are busy. I stay all day, but I visit during the week. The tables fit 3  plus your LO. Minors are under 17 yrs of age. But you must realize that if you bring children they must sit on your lap if you use the seats for adults. So only 3 adults plus minors are allowed per visit.  I noticed the last two visits that BMR is getting stricter on clothing. No holes/rips in any clothing, No cleavage showing, skirts must be knee length & females must have a bra/underpants on.

[mhager7221]

Thanks so much for the info... do you know if they are allowed only 1 weekend visit a month?
 

[jdmlt]

I'm not sure about the weekend visits. I am pretty sure only 5 visits a month. Hopefully, someone else will know more on the amount per month can be weekends.

[Marks_guy]

They get 5 visits a month, but only 2 can be weekend/holiday visits.

[mhager7221]

They get 5 visits a month, but only 2 can be weekend/holiday visits.

THANKS so much!!! 

[mhager7221]

Hi
My LO is in BMR and normally calls on days he says he will. He was supposed to call yesterday(Monday) and didn't and i didn't receive a call from him today (Tuesday) either.... has anyone heard of anything going on there?
Thanks!

[Lmkarpan]

my DJ is there too and i didn't get calls either the last 2 days.  i was supposed to be leaviing right now for a visit but they are on lockdown.  idky.  Stupid IDOC!!!  I need my visit!!!  I'm about to lose my mind!!!  You can email me anytime.  I'm looking for "local" support and it's hard to find.  Feel free to email anytime.  I don't check this site very often.

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LaDonna